kian.fo
February 26, 2026, 4:58pm
1
سلام
وقتی که دستور
sudo rmmod v42loopback
رو میزنم این خطا میاد:
rmmod: ERROR: Module v42loopback is not currently loaded
میخوام مشکلات v42loopback رو حل کنم تا iriun webcam بدون مشکل بالا بیاد که اونم خطای v42loopback missing رو میده
پیشاپیش از پاسخگوییتون متشکرم
سلام و وقت بخیر.
ماژول مربوطه احتمالا نصب نیست یا لود نشده. با این دستور اگر نصب نباشه میتونید نصبش کنید.
sudo pacman -S v4l2loopback-dkms dkms linux-headers
پس از نصب می تونید لودش کنید:
sudo modprobe v4l2loopback exclusive_caps=1
در صورتی که بازم خطا داشت خروجی دستور زیر رو بفرستید:
dmesg | tail -n 200
kian.fo
February 26, 2026, 6:09pm
3
هر دو تا دستور اول رو زدم بعد دستور آخری رو زدم این خطا رو داد:
dmesg | tail -n 200
dmesg: read kernel buffer failed: Operation not permitted
دستور آخر رو با sudo بزن.
سیستم رو هم یکدور بهروزرسانی کن؛ اگر کرنل بهروز نباشه و نسخه جدیدی از ماژول رو نصب کنی کار نمیکنه.
kian.fo
February 27, 2026, 8:06am
5
اول سیستم رو بروزرسانی کردم با دستور
sudo pacman -Syu
بعد اومدم سراغ این که بعد dkms و اینا ها به ریخت چون dkms نسخه قدمی بود برای 6.18.2_arch2_1 بعد دستی بروزرسانی کردم همین dkms رو به 6.18.9_arch1_2
kian.fo
February 27, 2026, 8:07am
6
sudo dmesg | tail -n 200
متن:
[sudo] password for nullbyte:
[ 4.968605] v4l2loopback: loading out-of-tree module taints kernel.
[ 4.968619] v4l2loopback: module verification failed: signature and/or required key missing - tainting kernel
[ 4.971622] systemd[1]: Finished Load/Save OS Random Seed.
[ 4.973575] v4l2-loopback driver version 0.15.3 loaded
[ 4.982390] systemd[1]: Starting User Database Manager...
[ 4.982882] systemd[1]: Finished Monitoring of LVM2 mirrors, snapshots etc. using dmeventd or progress polling.
[ 5.017581] systemd[1]: Started User Database Manager.
[ 5.022691] systemd[1]: Started Journal Service.
[ 5.040812] systemd-journald[348]: Received client request to flush runtime journal.
[ 5.230125] nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel.
[ 5.230130] Disabling lock debugging due to kernel taint
[ 5.230133] nvidia: module license taints kernel.
[ 5.660788] nvidia-nvlink: Nvlink Core is being initialized, major device number 237
[ 5.669622] nvidia 0000:01:00.0: enabling device (0006 -> 0007)
[ 5.669711] nvidia 0000:01:00.0: vgaarb: VGA decodes changed: olddecodes=io+mem,decodes=none:owns=mem
[ 5.710079] iTCO_vendor_support: vendor-support=0
[ 5.729159] iTCO_wdt iTCO_wdt.1.auto: Found a Panther Point TCO device (Version=2, TCOBASE=0x0460)
[ 5.729349] iTCO_wdt iTCO_wdt.1.auto: initialized. heartbeat=30 sec (nowayout=0)
[ 5.763270] alx 0000:03:00.0 eth0: Qualcomm Atheros AR816x/AR817x Ethernet [8c:89:a5:05:21:a5]
[ 5.807378] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1b.0: enabling device (0000 -> 0002)
[ 5.807614] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1b.0: bound 0000:00:02.0 (ops intel_audio_component_bind_ops [i915])
[ 5.812053] input: PC Speaker as /devices/platform/pcspkr/input/input9
[ 5.814893] cfg80211: Loading compiled-in X.509 certificates for regulatory database
[ 5.820529] Loaded X.509 cert 'sforshee: 00b28ddf47aef9cea7'
[ 5.820822] Loaded X.509 cert 'wens: 61c038651aabdcf94bd0ac7ff06c7248db18c600'
[ 5.821992] faux_driver regulatory: Direct firmware load for regulatory.db failed with error -2
[ 5.821998] cfg80211: failed to load regulatory.db
[ 5.847401] Bluetooth: Core ver 2.22
[ 5.847569] NET: Registered PF_BLUETOOTH protocol family
[ 5.847817] Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized
[ 5.847823] Bluetooth: HCI socket layer initialized
[ 5.847826] Bluetooth: L2CAP socket layer initialized
[ 5.847839] Bluetooth: SCO socket layer initialized
[ 5.857715] input: MSI WMI hotkeys as /devices/virtual/input/input10
[ 5.859038] i801_smbus 0000:00:1f.3: SMBus using PCI interrupt
[ 5.859612] i2c i2c-7: Successfully instantiated SPD at 0x50
[ 5.860090] i2c i2c-7: Successfully instantiated SPD at 0x52
[ 5.860392] alx 0000:03:00.0 enp3s0: renamed from eth0
[ 5.865917] msi_ec: Unable to find a valid firmware version!
[ 5.882388] iwlwifi 0000:05:00.0: enabling device (0100 -> 0102)
[ 5.882547] iwlwifi 0000:05:00.0: can't disable ASPM; OS doesn't have ASPM control
[ 5.882871] RAPL PMU: API unit is 2^-32 Joules, 3 fixed counters, 163840 ms ovfl timer
[ 5.882874] RAPL PMU: hw unit of domain pp0-core 2^-16 Joules
[ 5.882876] RAPL PMU: hw unit of domain package 2^-16 Joules
[ 5.882877] RAPL PMU: hw unit of domain pp1-gpu 2^-16 Joules
[ 5.883797] snd_hda_codec_alc662 hdaudioC1D0: autoconfig for ALC892: line_outs=2 (0x1b/0x16/0x0/0x0/0x0) type:speaker
[ 5.883804] snd_hda_codec_alc662 hdaudioC1D0: speaker_outs=0 (0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
[ 5.883808] snd_hda_codec_alc662 hdaudioC1D0: hp_outs=1 (0x14/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
[ 5.883811] snd_hda_codec_alc662 hdaudioC1D0: mono: mono_out=0x0
[ 5.883813] snd_hda_codec_alc662 hdaudioC1D0: dig-out=0x1e/0x0
[ 5.883815] snd_hda_codec_alc662 hdaudioC1D0: inputs:
[ 5.883817] snd_hda_codec_alc662 hdaudioC1D0: Mic=0x18
[ 5.883819] snd_hda_codec_alc662 hdaudioC1D0: Internal Mic=0x19
[ 5.890402] iwlwifi 0000:05:00.0: Detected crf-id 0xa5a5a5a1, cnv-id 0xa5a5a5a1 wfpm id 0xa5a5a5a1
[ 5.890458] iwlwifi 0000:05:00.0: PCI dev 0892/0062, rev=0x120, rfid=0xd55555d5
[ 5.890464] iwlwifi 0000:05:00.0: Detected Intel(R) Centrino(R) Wireless-N 135 BGN
[ 5.896903] at24 7-0050: supply vcc not found, using dummy regulator
[ 5.899126] at24 7-0050: 256 byte spd EEPROM, read-only
[ 5.899180] at24 7-0052: supply vcc not found, using dummy regulator
[ 5.901021] at24 7-0052: 256 byte spd EEPROM, read-only
[ 5.901467] iwlwifi 0000:05:00.0: loaded firmware version 18.168.6.1 135-6.ucode op_mode iwldvm
[ 5.909518] usbcore: registered new interface driver btusb
[ 5.910767] Bluetooth: hci0: unexpected event for opcode 0x0000
[ 5.919746] input: HDA Intel PCH Mic as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1b.0/sound/card1/input11
[ 5.919825] input: HDA Intel PCH Headphone as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1b.0/sound/card1/input12
[ 5.919900] input: HDA Intel PCH HDMI/DP,pcm=3 as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1b.0/sound/card1/input13
[ 6.038263] You are using the broadcom-wl driver, which is not maintained and is incompatible with Linux kernel security mitigations. It is heavily recommended to replace the hardware and remove the driver. Proceed at your own risk!
[ 6.038269] ------------[ cut here ]------------
[ 6.038271] Unpatched return thunk in use. This should not happen!
[ 6.038275] WARNING: CPU: 6 PID: 418 at arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c:3790 __warn_thunk+0x2a/0x40
[ 6.038284] Modules linked in: wl(POE+) kvm(+) vfat mac80211 fat irqbypass snd_hda_codec_intelhdmi polyval_clmulni libarc4 snd_hda_codec_hdmi btusb ghash_clmulni_intel btmtk aesni_intel at24 btrtl mei_hdcp rapl mei_pxp snd_hda_codec_alc662 intel_cstate btbcm iwlwifi snd_hda_codec_realtek_lib i2c_i801 btintel msi_wmi snd_hda_codec_generic i2c_smbus bluetooth intel_uncore sparse_keymap snd_hda_intel pcspkr psmouse cfg80211 snd_hda_codec i2c_mux iTCO_wdt snd_hda_core alx intel_pmc_bxt snd_intel_dspcfg iTCO_vendor_support rfkill mei_me snd_intel_sdw_acpi mdio mei snd_hwdep intel_oc_wdt mac_hid nvidia(POE+) snd_aloop snd_pcm v4l2loopback(OE) snd_timer videodev snd dm_mod mc soundcore i2c_dev ntsync crypto_user nfnetlink i915 rtsx_pci_sdmmc mxm_wmi sdhci_pci i2c_algo_bit sr_mod sdhci_uhs2 drm_buddy cdrom sdhci ttm serio_raw cqhci intel_gtt video mmc_core rtsx_pci drm_display_helper wmi cec lpc_ich
[ 6.038366] CPU: 6 UID: 0 PID: 418 Comm: (udev-worker) Tainted: P OE 6.18.9-arch1-2 #1 PREEMPT(full) acc0345693780c55f83aaf9a0c9efd10d8da358f
[ 6.038373] Tainted: [P]=PROPRIETARY_MODULE, [O]=OOT_MODULE, [E]=UNSIGNED_MODULE
[ 6.038374] Hardware name: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. GE70 0NC\0ND/MS-1756, BIOS E1756IMS.514 03/12/2013
[ 6.038376] RIP: 0010:__warn_thunk+0x2a/0x40
[ 6.038380] Code: 0f 1f 40 d6 0f 1f 44 00 00 80 3d 5d 6c 39 02 00 74 05 c3 cc cc cc cc 48 c7 c7 88 28 f7 90 c6 05 48 6c 39 02 01 e8 76 1b 06 00 <0f> 0b c3 cc cc cc cc 66 2e 0f 1f 84 00 00 00 00 00 0f 1f 44 00 00
[ 6.038383] RSP: 0018:ffffd02800c6f980 EFLAGS: 00010246
[ 6.038386] RAX: 0000000000000000 RBX: 0000000000000000 RCX: 0000000000000027
[ 6.038388] RDX: ffff8e909f39d008 RSI: 0000000000000001 RDI: ffff8e909f39d000
[ 6.038390] RBP: ffffd02800c6f9d0 R08: 0000000000000000 R09: 00000000ffffefff
[ 6.038392] R10: ffffffff91861440 R11: ffffd02800c6f818 R12: ffffffffc46a9b05
[ 6.038394] R13: ffffffffc07f9010 R14: 00007f57c78a22f2 R15: 0000000000000000
[ 6.038396] FS: 00007f57c8736840(0000) GS:ffff8e910ce6f000(0000) knlGS:0000000000000000
[ 6.038399] CS: 0010 DS: 0000 ES: 0000 CR0: 0000000080050033
[ 6.038401] CR2: 00007f3300588fc8 CR3: 00000001066c4001 CR4: 00000000001706f0
[ 6.038403] Call Trace:
[ 6.038407] <TASK>
[ 6.038408] warn_thunk_thunk+0x16/0x30
[ 6.038428] getvar+0x20/0x70 [wl e78faeca8b827cd02cf69c5845b497ce5f245ac9]
[ 6.038502] ? __UNIQUE_ID_modinfo486+0x2fd7bda82b9d/0x2fd7bda82b9d [wl e78faeca8b827cd02cf69c5845b497ce5f245ac9]
[ 6.038560] wl_module_init+0x23/0xb0 [wl e78faeca8b827cd02cf69c5845b497ce5f245ac9]
[ 6.038617] ? do_one_initcall+0x5b/0x300
[ 6.038623] ? do_init_module+0x62/0x250
[ 6.038626] ? init_module_from_file+0x8a/0xe0
[ 6.038629] ? init_module_from_file+0x8a/0xe0
[ 6.038634] ? idempotent_init_module+0x114/0x310
[ 6.038638] ? __x64_sys_finit_module+0x6d/0xd0
[ 6.038641] ? syscall_trace_enter+0x8d/0x1d0
[ 6.038646] ? do_syscall_64+0x81/0x7f0
[ 6.038650] ? do_syscall_64+0x81/0x7f0
[ 6.038654] ? do_syscall_64+0x81/0x7f0
[ 6.038656] ? do_sys_openat2+0xa2/0xe0
[ 6.038662] ? __x64_sys_openat+0x61/0xa0
[ 6.038665] ? do_syscall_64+0x81/0x7f0
[ 6.038668] ? vfs_read+0x268/0x390
[ 6.038670] ? __seccomp_filter+0x42/0x590
[ 6.038677] ? ksys_read+0x73/0xf0
[ 6.038680] ? native_flush_tlb_global+0x8e/0xb0
[ 6.038684] ? sched_clock+0x10/0x30
[ 6.038688] ? sched_clock_cpu+0xf/0x200
[ 6.038693] ? __flush_smp_call_function_queue+0xae/0x410
[ 6.038697] ? sched_clock_cpu+0xf/0x200
[ 6.038700] ? irqtime_account_irq+0x3c/0xc0
[ 6.038704] ? __irq_exit_rcu+0x4c/0xf0
[ 6.038708] ? entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe+0x76/0x7e
[ 6.038713] </TASK>
[ 6.038714] ---[ end trace 0000000000000000 ]---
[ 6.097518] iwlwifi 0000:05:00.0: CONFIG_IWLWIFI_DEBUG enabled
[ 6.097522] iwlwifi 0000:05:00.0: CONFIG_IWLWIFI_DEBUGFS enabled
[ 6.097524] iwlwifi 0000:05:00.0: CONFIG_IWLWIFI_DEVICE_TRACING enabled
[ 6.097525] iwlwifi 0000:05:00.0: Detected Intel(R) Centrino(R) Wireless-N 135 BGN, REV=0x120
[ 6.139566] intel_rapl_common: Found RAPL domain package
[ 6.139571] intel_rapl_common: Found RAPL domain core
[ 6.139572] intel_rapl_common: Found RAPL domain uncore
[ 6.139578] intel_rapl_common: package-0:package:long_term locked by BIOS
[ 6.139580] intel_rapl_common: package-0:package:short_term locked by BIOS
[ 6.140527] ieee80211 phy0: Selected rate control algorithm 'iwl-agn-rs'
[ 6.145567] iwlwifi 0000:05:00.0 wlp5s0: renamed from wlan0
[ 6.540371] psmouse serio1: elantech: assuming hardware version 3 (with firmware version 0x550f00)
[ 6.557510] psmouse serio1: elantech: Synaptics capabilities query result 0x49, 0x15, 0x0c.
[ 6.574532] psmouse serio1: elantech: Elan sample query result 03, 1d, b7
[ 6.659233] input: ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad as /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input8
[ 6.679826] mousedev: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
[ 8.338676] NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86_64 Kernel Module 470.256.02 Thu May 2 14:37:44 UTC 2024
[ 8.368847] nvidia_uvm: module uses symbols nvUvmInterfaceDisableAccessCntr from proprietary module nvidia, inheriting taint.
[ 8.482859] nvidia-uvm: Loaded the UVM driver, major device number 234.
[ 8.519370] nvidia-modeset: Loading NVIDIA Kernel Mode Setting Driver for UNIX platforms 470.256.02 Thu May 2 14:50:40 UTC 2024
[ 8.525759] [drm] [nvidia-drm] [GPU ID 0x00000100] Loading driver
[ 8.525765] [drm] Initialized nvidia-drm 0.0.0 for 0000:01:00.0 on minor 0
[ 8.525769] Failed to initialize the nv-hotplug-helper DRM client (ensure DRM kernel mode setting is enabled via nvidia-drm.modeset=1).
[ 8.525779] [drm] [nvidia-drm] [GPU ID 0x00000100] Unloading driver
[ 8.616177] iwlwifi 0000:05:00.0: Radio type=0x0-0x0-0x0
[ 8.704792] iwlwifi 0000:05:00.0: Radio type=0x0-0x0-0x0
[ 11.132484] Bluetooth: BNEP (Ethernet Emulation) ver 1.3
[ 11.132490] Bluetooth: BNEP filters: protocol multicast
[ 11.132495] Bluetooth: BNEP socket layer initialized
[ 11.134073] Bluetooth: MGMT ver 1.23
[ 11.142866] NET: Registered PF_ALG protocol family
[ 11.244366] NET: Registered PF_QIPCRTR protocol family
[ 11.303869] iwlwifi 0000:05:00.0: Radio type=0x0-0x0-0x0
[ 11.391220] iwlwifi 0000:05:00.0: Radio type=0x0-0x0-0x0
[ 23.322205] iwlwifi 0000:05:00.0: Radio type=0x0-0x0-0x0
[ 23.410201] iwlwifi 0000:05:00.0: Radio type=0x0-0x0-0x0
[ 23.502186] iwlwifi 0000:05:00.0: Radio type=0x0-0x0-0x0
[ 23.590163] iwlwifi 0000:05:00.0: Radio type=0x0-0x0-0x0
[ 23.869911] espanso[1048]: segfault at 18 ip 00007f8aa348f304 sp 00007ffcd9808c30 error 4 in libgtk-3.so.0.2419.32[28f304,7f8aa33f1000+3b7000] likely on CPU 7 (core 3, socket 0)
[ 23.869924] Code: 84 00 00 00 00 00 f3 0f 1e fa 48 8b 7f 10 48 85 ff 74 0b e9 8e ab ff ff 66 0f 1f 44 00 00 55 48 89 d7 48 89 e5 e8 2c e8 19 00 <48> 8b 40 18 48 8b 78 10 67 e8 6e 61 0a 00 5d 48 89 c7 e9 65 ab ff
[ 25.517681] Bluetooth: RFCOMM TTY layer initialized
[ 25.517693] Bluetooth: RFCOMM socket layer initialized
[ 25.517698] Bluetooth: RFCOMM ver 1.11
[ 25.886193] iwlwifi 0000:05:00.0: Radio type=0x0-0x0-0x0
[ 25.973249] iwlwifi 0000:05:00.0: Radio type=0x0-0x0-0x0
[ 26.997298] wlp5s0: authenticate with 74:da:da:7a:50:c1 (local address=0c:d2:92:05:d8:ae)
[ 26.997306] wlp5s0: send auth to 74:da:da:7a:50:c1 (try 1/3)
[ 26.998988] wlp5s0: authenticated
[ 26.999496] wlp5s0: associate with 74:da:da:7a:50:c1 (try 1/3)
[ 27.003792] wlp5s0: RX AssocResp from 74:da:da:7a:50:c1 (capab=0x411 status=0 aid=3)
[ 27.007891] wlp5s0: associated
[ 27.174701] warning: `kdeconnectd' uses wireless extensions which will stop working for Wi-Fi 7 hardware; use nl80211
[ 33.274016] Initializing XFRM netlink socket
[ 33.311264] bridge: filtering via arp/ip/ip6tables is no longer available by default. Update your scripts to load br_netfilter if you need this.
[ 740.950571] ACPI Warning: \_SB.PCI0.PEG0.PEGP._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20250807/nsarguments-61)
[ 740.971625] resource: resource sanity check: requesting [mem 0x00000000000c0000-0x00000000000fffff], which spans more than PCI Bus 0000:00 [mem 0x000a0000-0x000effff window]
[ 740.971633] caller _nv000720rm+0x1ad/0x200 [nvidia] mapping multiple BARs
[ 743.948101] nvidia-modeset: WARNING: GPU:0: Correcting number of heads for current head configuration (0x00)
[ 1039.906656] resource: resource sanity check: requesting [mem 0x00000000000c0000-0x00000000000fffff], which spans more than PCI Bus 0000:00 [mem 0x000a0000-0x000effff window]
[ 1039.906665] caller _nv000720rm+0x1ad/0x200 [nvidia] mapping multiple BARs
[ 1040.066535] nvidia-modeset: WARNING: GPU:0: Correcting number of heads for current head configuration (0x00)
[ 1108.186431] usb 1-1: new high-speed USB device number 2 using xhci_hcd
[ 1108.310044] usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=abcd, idProduct=1234, bcdDevice= 1.00
[ 1108.310059] usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
[ 1108.310063] usb 1-1: Product: UDisk
[ 1108.310066] usb 1-1: Manufacturer: General
[ 1108.310069] usb 1-1: SerialNumber: 2211050931450626539020
[ 1108.353639] usb-storage 1-1:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected
[ 1108.353885] scsi host6: usb-storage 1-1:1.0
[ 1108.354107] usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage
[ 1108.359535] usbcore: registered new interface driver uas
[ 1109.354973] scsi 6:0:0:0: Direct-Access General UDisk 5.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2
[ 1109.356228] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] 30720000 512-byte logical blocks: (15.7 GB/14.6 GiB)
[ 1109.356394] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
[ 1109.356405] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 0b 00 00 08
[ 1109.356565] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page found
[ 1109.356574] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[ 1109.376000] sdb: sdb1
[ 1109.376331] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
[ 1140.336930] FAT-fs (sdb1): Volume was not properly unmounted. Some data may be corrupt. Please run fsck.
[ 1257.658295] sdb: detected capacity change from 30720000 to 0
[ 1260.382443] usb 1-1: USB disconnect, device number 2
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مشکل خاصی نداره ماژول v4l2loopback توی لاگ شما و لود شده توی کرنل.
kian.fo
February 27, 2026, 6:50pm
8
باشه چشم ببخشید
خب هر چی اون دستوری که iriun webcam گفته رو میزنم میگه به درستی لود نشده v4l2loopback
خب با این دستور ببینید که لود شده یا نه:
lsmod | grep v4l2loopback
اگر خطای پرمیشن داد با sudo اجراش کنید.
به احتمال زیاد مشکل از برنامه باشه.
kian.fo
February 28, 2026, 7:52pm
10
lsmod | grep v4l2loopback
v4l2loopback 73728 0
videodev 397312 1 v4l2loopback
زدم اینو داد
برنامه رو هزار بار حذف کردم با pacman -Rns دوباره نصبش کردم.
تو دفعه های قبل برنامه همینم نمیاورد فقط ی صفحه خاکستری
خب این یعنی ماژول لود شده، مشکل از برنامتونه.
خب چی کار کنم هزار بار uninstall کردم و دوباره نصب کردم نشد که نشد
فکر نکنم این اهمیتی داشته باشه، مثل ویندوز نیست که رفتار متفاوتی از خودش نشون بده هردفعه.
یا باید صبر کنید اپدیت بشه برنامه، یا از جایگزین هاش استفاده کنید.
الان نمیتونم کاری کنم؟
بجز جایگزین چون در شرایط حال حاضر نمیشه کاری کرد
نه، چون مشکل از ماژول نیست
پس الان باید برم به خوده پشتیبانی اپ بگم؟!
اگر دسترسی دارید بله.
چون این فورک از یک برنامه دیگست به نظر همون برنامه اصلیه رو نصب کنید بهتره.
و خب فروم هم برای چت کردن نیست و زیادی این تاپیک شلوغ شده.